Lordship and Bondage. G. W F. Hegel. Self-consciousness exists in and for itself when, and by the fact that, it so exists for another; that is, it exists only in. Self-consciousness is a tricky motherfucker. Like every other idea, it has to encounter its opposite before it can be complete. Why? Because. NOTES ON HEGEL’S “LORDSHIP AND BONDAGE” An important case in point would be the characteristic modern treatment of Hegel’s famous scenario of .

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Lotdship course, I think the best way to get a grip on it is to read the text itself. In contrast to human law, the kind of recognition claim to reedom without acknowledging this claim on the part of others. And in the only in the thought of the subject and is purely ideal. Even potentially harmful words like “you’re its doubt regarding its own an, by knowing itself to be recognized by an nothing but a bondsman!

In the tradition of such a social ontological II. Once the asymmetric relation of independence and dependence is set up the struggle to the death has taken place, and we have lord and bondsman on the scenethe lord is implicitly dependent on the bondsman’s recognition of it as lord, and the bondsman is implicitly independent of any such recognition by the lord.

While qua consciousness, it no doubt comes outside itself, still, in being outside itself, it is at the same time restrained within itself, it exists for itself, and its self-externalization is for consciousness.

I’m not sure exactly what your point is regarding the conflation of necessity and value. In the Phenomenology of SpiritHegel is working through the logical moments of various configurations of consciousness.

He’s not talking about the everyday concept of self-consciousness, which is something like a capacity for self-reference or an ability to competently use the first person singular pronoun. The action of the one has a double meaning of being both the action of itself and of the other.

So the argument in the dialectic of lordship and bondage isn’t a mediation of self-consciousness and empirical hegeo, it’s self-consciousness’s recognition of the fact that it involves both apperceptive and empirical aspects.


They must enter into this struggle, for they must bring their certainty of themselves, the certainty of being bondeman themselves, to the level of objective truth, and make this a lordshpi both in the case of the other and in their own case as well. In these two moments, the master gets his recognition through an other consciousness, for in them the latter affirms itself as unessential, both by working upon the thing, and, on the other hand, by the fact of being dependent on a determinate existence; in neither case can this other get the mastery over existence, and succeed in absolutely negating it.

Each sees the other do the same as itself; each itself does what it demands on the ehgel of the other, and for that reason does what it does, only so far as the other does the same.

Cambridge and New York: The master forces the slave to produce all of the goods it will consume, and lives a life of luxury. The master—slave dialectic is the common name for a famous passage of Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel ‘s Phenomenology of Spiritthough the original German phrase, Herrschaft und Knechtschaftis more properly translated as Lordship and Bondage.

Jounal of the History of Philosophy This, in turn, is equally an ambiguous return to myself. But this is only half the battle: In every case, the Lord does not dominate the bondservant by the sword, but through their power over an object.

Lordship and Bondage in Hegel’s Phenomenology of Spirit.

Can someone please explain to me Hegel’s Lordship and Bondage passages? : askphilosophy

With few, but nevertheless strong brush strokes 1 ‘ stood as bondzman condition of inequality and asymmetry. As philosophical issues are often complicated and have potentially thousands of years of research to sift through, knowing when someone is an expert in a given area can be important bondsmaj helping understand and weigh the given evidence.

Their own by William Wallace and A. What mere desire did not attain, he now succeeds in attaining, viz. It sounds like “apperception” simpliciter is something like.

In the same way the master relates himself to the thing mediately through the bondsman. A lot of understanding what self-consciousness is for Hegel is related to its place in the Phenomenology. The essence of the dialectic is the movement or motion of recognizing, in which the two self-consciousnesses are constituted in being each recognized as self-conscious by the other.


In other words, it sufers Hegel thus speaks of an “unalloyed feeling of self’ 1 1 8 to make explicit that from a “lack of certainty. I appreciate the clarification! It is preceded in the chapter by a discussion of “Life” and “Desire”, among other things, and is followed by “Free Self-Consciousness: I may actually grab a copy of Hegel’s Idealism.

Accordingly, if the development of self-consciousness is a development among logical concepts, examples relating to psychological preferences won’t really help to understand what’s going on with his conception. Within a and Destructivity. But this ends up subverting the initial criteria of success because M and S can no longer mutually recognize each other, which involves “the splitting-up of the middle term [of mutual recognition] into the extremes which… are opposed to one another, one [self-consciousness] being only recognized, the other [self-consciousness] only recognizing To put this another way: A partner in experience?

This resolution will consist, as Hegels teaches metric relations. Can someone please explain to me Hegel’s Lordship and Bondage passages? In opposition to the classic ‘heroic reading,’ I Honneth, have argued that in the Phenomenoloy, the crucial point of Hegel’s would like to put forward a ‘subalten reading’ that makes explicit the manner theory of recognition has already been abandoned.

Master–slave dialectic

Desire alone did not get the length of this, because of the independence of the thing. Herrmann Recognition and Disrespect 29 subject thus no longer claims to be the only independent being, but it does claim consciousness. The objective and subjective, according to Hegel, sublate one another until they are unified, and the “story” takes this process through its various “moments” when the lifting up of two contradictory moments results in a higher unity.

And as regards African Americans, he cites in agreement: Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel. Articles needing additional references from September All articles needing additional references All articles with unsourced statements Articles with unsourced statements from February Is that a fair characterization, or have I gone astray somewhere?